Moabmonkey
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The general manager of a SeaDoo dealership told me this weekend that all the PWC manufacturers got together for tea at some point and agreed that they would not produce a craft capable of exceeding 70 mph stock.
While this 70 mph "ruling" seems to be a reality, it doesn't seem like it was something that actually occurred. To me, the limitations of the 70 mph barrier seem to be related to something that was unnecessary to meet for. Simple power to weight ratios combined with making bigger and bigger pumps is the issue. Making the pump and craft larger is a categorical issue - after a while, if a PWC gets large enough it's no longer a PWC, it's a jet boat.
This is related to a much larger issue that's been bugging me for years. It's not necessary for the manufacturers to keep making these super craft. I would much rather buy a lighter, more maneuverable craft like an HX or a Waveblaster that simply had a smaller 4-stroke motor. The power to weight ratio and some other minor design changes would make all but make up for the differences. Everyone sells either water couches or stand-ups now with the exception of the GP-1300R and it's only a matter of time before that one becomes extinct. I predict that the industry will see the error of it's ways as they reach the practical limit of these super craft, but I sure wish they would realize it now.
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its a gentlemens agreement manufacturers have with the coast guard, not each other...
00 GP12R...triple piper...everything but an rxp pump/05 pump/propski mod
03 GP13R...stock...... conversion candidate
00 GP13R...bigbore
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Moabmonkey
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After more research I found that it was actually 65 mph, not 70 and was started by SeaDoo and the Coast Guard to get the rest of the industry to comply, which they did. If you're going to respond, at least know what you're talking about and do not just regurgitate a snippet of what you found after you googled some key words.
So yes it was with each other as well as the Coast Guard. This was also more than 9 years ago and obviously the 65 mph cap has already been exceeded as I've witnessed many of my own craft and friends craft past 65 on the GPS. Like it matters, numerous craft with the right mods can exceed 70 mph anyway and I guess anyone who wants to go faster can do so.
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Moabmonkey wrote:After more research I found that it was actually 65 mph, not 70 and was started by SeaDoo and the Coast Guard to get the rest of the industry to comply, which they did. If you're going to respond, at least know what you're talking about and do not just regurgitate a snippet of what you found after you googled some key words.
So yes it was with each other as well as the Coast Guard. This was also more than 9 years ago and obviously the 65 mph cap has already been exceeded as I've witnessed many of my own craft and friends craft past 65 on the GPS. Like it matters, numerous craft with the right mods can exceed 70 mph anyway and I guess anyone who wants to go faster can do so.
i responded because i knew what i was talking about,and apparently you did not, thanks anyway....
top speed for a ski now is 106.....although hes not using a jetpump
fastest jetpump is 103..
last week i was riding with 170+ skis who were in the 70's 80's and 90's....
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Moabmonkey
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I never said I knew about it, that's why I posted the thread and I have no problem admitting that.
"I was unaware of the decade old unwritten agreement between the PWC industry and the Coast Guard." - signed Moabmonkey 
Good to know now although I guess ultimately it doesn't matter as Remy can attest to on his 70+ mph GP1300R.
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